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Sealing Sandblasted Block

Postby michaelv on Fri Mar 16, 2007 2:21 pm

This topic has come up a few times with limited resolution. In our case, both the sandblaster and a general contractor told us that we 'MUST' seal the block on our sandblasted house.

So...I went to Cohills (http://www.cohills.com/) - a local company that sells a lot of concrete 'stuff' - coloring to mix in with cement, acid stain, sealers, you name it.

The professional opinion of Tim the cement guy is that a sandblasted home in AZ ‘should’ be sealed, but does not ‘have’ to be sealed.

Sealing will close up the pores of the block, making it more impervious to the elements (maybe it's me, but isn't concrete pretty dang impervious to the elements?), and less likely to accumulate dust (yeah, like we aren’t used to that after the dang blasting) as well as minimize the water migration into the home. If there was a bad monsoon or you have part of your house that gets a lot of water exposure when it rains, this is probably a good idea.

They had multiple products – ‘sealers’, ‘water repellent sealers’, and ‘waterproofers’. He suggested getting a water repellent sealer, which is about $25 a gallon – coverage of approx. 300 square feet per gallon if using an airless sprayer, 200 if using a garden sprayer (although they recommended airless).

So…there you have it. We’re going to do it as a preventative measure.
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Postby Circa50 on Fri Mar 16, 2007 2:53 pm

GOT TO SEAL. Block is porous and will draw moister in to the walls behind your sheetrock where mold will grow.
Two types of sealer. Oil based makes block darker, water based keeps it light.
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Postby michaelv on Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:30 pm

Good to know - then the logic follows that it is best to get a water repellent or waterproof sealer as they will inhibit water migration.

Thanks very much. All of the comments were just that we 'had' to do it, but no recommendations for brands or types of products.
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Postby Circa50 on Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:18 pm

Does not necessarily need to be water repellant. Paint is not always water repellant, but it does seal the block. I will have to get back to you with the product info.
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Postby michaelv on Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:18 pm

Decided to go with Deck-O-Shield, manufactured by WR Meadows

http://www.wrmeadows.com/wrm00083.htm

about $25/gallon; on sandblasted block am supposed to get 70-80 sq ft. coverage per gallon (will post actuals once we do it next weekend)

Available at Cohills
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Postby Cody Carpenter on Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:55 am

I have sealed sandblasted block with three types of sealers. if you want to enhance the color of you blockk slightly than use a water based acrylic with a matte finish, or low gloss , if you want the block to look like it does at this time use a penetrating sealer this will be drawn into the block . If you use the penetrating make sure you don't aply to much to allow large run lines . You can apply iether of these sealers with a pump sprayer. you will more than likely need about three coats of sealer. I would recomend using a water based acrylic it will give you better protection. Use the matte finish. You can pick some up @ marvel there is a location on 24th st and indian school and a location @ 32nd st just south of bell. for the first coat I would recomend cutting the sealer with water about 50/50 so the block will draw it in deeper. The next two coats go full strength. Give it about 30 minutes between coats. I hope this helps
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Postby michaelv on Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:04 am

Thanks a Cody! We already bought the a water based acrylic sealer from Cohills, but will definately check out Marvel as it's close to our house
(you know you're a MoPho when you go to brickyards just for fun)

Cohills suggested using an airless, and given that we have around 2K square feet, it seems easier than a pump sprayer.

Renting from Spray Technology in Tempe

http://www.spraytechnologyinc.com/

Cheaper than A-Z Rents and we're getting a more powerful unit($75 for all weekend instead of $75 for a day)
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Postby Cody Carpenter on Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:04 pm

Good using an airless will be a much cleaner finish. You just never know i thought I would suggest a pump sprayer because some people like to avoid going to the extra effort.If you already got your sealer from cohills you should be good. You will more than likely go through about 5 gallons if you have a decent amount of square footage. If you did get a sealer with a sheen keep in mind that it may cause an inconsistancy in the finish. When the block is sanblasted it gets marred deeper in certain areas wich causes the sealer to be drawn in deeper in certain areas. The spotts where the block is not as deep will have more sheen than the other portions of the block causing an uneven finish,So once again I recomend a satin or matte finish.Cohills has good sealers so your in good hands.
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Postby michaelv on Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:32 pm

After all that, the sealer cut sheet said not to spray at more than 50psi - so the airless was out. Would have needed a HVLP, and I don't think anyplace rents those.

Got a good Chapin pump sprayer and will use that.

Will post photos - they should be terribly exciting - especially the before/after :lol:
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Postby Cody Carpenter on Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:38 pm

I shot my house with an airless using a solvent based acrylic and it worked just fine , I did my interior with the pump sprayer and it also worked well . So my friend hit that son of a B and make her shine
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Postby michaelv on Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:40 pm

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Postby michaelv on Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:44 pm

Ok, a bit more seriously...here's the breakdown...

Approximately 1500 sq. ft. of block to be sealed.

Used garden sprayer and water based sealer (detailed above)

Took 19 gallons for 2 fairly thick coats

Did not really need the spray shield

Time to complete - approximately 4 hours plus cleanup for one person

It currently looks like the block might darken just a bit - which is good as it will highlight the shading differences.
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Postby Cody Carpenter on Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:32 pm

Dude lookin good.
you had some high walls to hit ,but yah it gous quick.
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Postby matthew on Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:53 pm

badass indeed.

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Ok, ROFLMAO

Postby fleurdelv on Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:46 pm

That has to be the funniest thing I have seen here in some time. Micheal, knowing you makes it all the funnier. Now I need to get my block done, so the question is did you power wash b4 sealing?
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